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Shrthrcrzy
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USA
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Posted - 06/02/2010 :  12:43:59  Show Profile  Visit Shrthrcrzy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Weird year here in Nor Cal, usually 95 and hot, instead its 60 and raining. Supposed to be like this until July...very strange but cool.

I saw a blue grouse hen with 13 tiny babies yesterday, and a couple Mtn Quail with 15 or 16 little puffball babies eacdh. I have noticed the local waterfowl have an abundance of babies this year too. I love this time of year, all the new life, just breaks my heart when I see people speed by instead of slowing down, enough game gets smacked by cars these days. I wish people would slow down and realize there are more than humans that travel our roads. All in all looks like its going to be a banner hatch, hopefully chukars and quail are doing well in other states as well.

" Never kick a fresh Turd on a hot day"
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sean english
Sage-grouse>150 posts

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Posted - 06/02/2010 :  18:49:45  Show Profile  Send sean english a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Shrthrcrzy
Whereabouts are you in Nor Cal? Ever hunted Bridgeport area?

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Karl and Zealot
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Posted - 06/02/2010 :  19:00:41  Show Profile  Visit Karl and Zealot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I can only hope we have that kind of success here. It would be a banner year with a great hatch.

I think that we can determine our upcoming year in 3 catagories of breeding success. Of course this is specific to large brood species.

0-6 chicks per brood = low year
6-10 = average year
10+ = great year

Karl
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Kirklan
Hungarian Partridge>300 Posts

USA
396 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2010 :  20:14:26  Show Profile  Visit Kirklan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This year is shapeing up just like last year. We had a decent enough hatch in '09, so I'm pretty positive about '10. As I recall in '09 we went from 30-40% to 80%+ of normal.

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Shrthrcrzy
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Posted - 06/03/2010 :  13:09:06  Show Profile  Visit Shrthrcrzy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sean English- I live in Lake Shastina. No, I havent hunted in the Bridgeport area, but its on my to do list as they have ptarmigan there I am told.

" Never kick a fresh Turd on a hot day"
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situk
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USA
304 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2010 :  12:08:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay…I still have not seen any adult quail being followed by little peepers. I had 6 pairs of quail on my front yard this morning doing their thing. They don’t even act like they have laid eggs yet. Have any of you seen any adults (Huns, quail, chukar, grouse, etc) with chicks. I’m thinking the weather has been perfect for southeast Idaho and Utah for a positive chick production year.
Thoughts? Sightings?
Todd

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Tuckota
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Posted - 06/23/2010 :  16:14:18  Show Profile  Visit Tuckota's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Todd. We don't get any little quail until later in July. I know a lot of people see them by now, but in 15 years I've seen the quail hatch after mid July up here in Horseshoe Bend.
I did see some very young grouse earlier this week.
My thoughts on the chukar and hun hatch. If you can remember what a 10 to 12 week old chukar looks like and probably have seen some on the opener in Idaho. If the opener is mid september than a 10 week old chick would be born the first of July and a 12 week old chick would be hatched mid June. Baby chukars and huns should be showing up shortly. I hope.
Larry

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Tuckota
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Posted - 06/23/2010 :  16:23:36  Show Profile  Visit Tuckota's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One other point. If my thoughts are correct, than with this wet green spring the birds clutches should be bigger. The insects are out there. Survival should be good. If a=b, and b=c, than we should have a banner year. The only negative I can see in this is, more birds bring out more hunters. But with the millions of acres to hunt I can live with that.
Larry

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Karl and Zealot
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Posted - 06/23/2010 :  16:33:39  Show Profile  Visit Karl and Zealot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Chukar and huns...Mid June...that's my guess at the peak of hatching for this region. The critical time is 2 weeks after hatching for weather.

Karl
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ChukarCory
Sage-grouse>150 posts

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Posted - 06/23/2010 :  19:22:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was out in one of my favorite "holes" for birds down in the Owyhees...saw one chukar, and one quail. I saw more birds in the area ywo months ago while predator hunting so I was kind of disappointed with the turn-out. Area usually produced chukar, quail, huns, and sage grouse. I did see several groups of sage grouse...
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brymoore
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112 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2010 :  07:39:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was speaking with a biologist recently who said the average birth date for chukars that last three years is July 15th based on F&G roadside harvest surveys.
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situk
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USA
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Posted - 06/24/2010 :  08:00:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah…I just get anxious for good reports. I sit here at work thinking about the fall-hunting more than I should. I think the stars are lining up for a great year, again knock on wood. I hope to hear great reports. Thanks guys,
Todd

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Karl and Zealot
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Posted - 06/24/2010 :  08:19:04  Show Profile  Visit Karl and Zealot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I bet the July 15th date is second clutches.

Karl
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brymoore
Blue Grouse>50 posts

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Posted - 06/24/2010 :  08:57:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree. I think the reasoning is the first hatch failed.
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ChukarCory
Sage-grouse>150 posts

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Posted - 06/24/2010 :  09:05:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the 15th of July would be late for a first clutch...quail around town are hatching...
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Kirklan
Hungarian Partridge>300 Posts

USA
396 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2010 :  11:24:22  Show Profile  Visit Kirklan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
From what I understand we're in the peak part of the hatch for huns right now. I would think the reason you didn't see any birds is they're probably sitting on eggs or have broods and are laying low. At least that's what I'll keep telling myself. Over all, I'm fairly optimistic for this season. I don't think the weather was any worse than last year and I saw a big improvement of bird numbers from '08 in '09, so I would expect the same this year.

The main issue around here is the expiring CRP contracts and farmers are starting to plow it up. I just got back from my sisters place and they live right in the middle of prime sharptail and hun habitat. My brother in law said there is 3,000 acres that will be plowed up in July right around his house. Really disapointing because I've actually hunted the area before and harvested birds there.

Looks like in the next 3-4 years ID is set to lose 78% of its CRP. If any of you want to hunt the Columbian sharp-tailed grouse, you better do it while you can.

http://content.fsa.usda.gov/crpstorpt/rmepeii_r1/ID.HTM


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Edited by - Kirklan on 06/24/2010 11:35:52
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